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Tintin's Cafe Racer project - BIG PICS WARNING!
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tintin Full Member
Joined: May 07, 2007 Posts: 96
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Posted: May 8, 2007, 7:19 pm Post subject: Tintin's Cafe Racer project - BIG PICS WARNING! |
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Sunday May 7 2007
I recently picked up a 1972 XS1B with a '77 engine in it. Just took it completely apart (not the engine yet).
Plans are for a cafe racer conversion with an alloy tank I picked up a bit ago, and the front drum off a 1971 XS1 I bought just 3 days ago. Will move the electronics and battery, run Tarozzi rearsets, clipons, need a seat etc. etc.
Located in Toronto. I cut my teeth on early 70's Honda SOHC's, including a 500, a 550 and a 750. My daily ride is a 1975 BMW R75/6 survivor - unrestored original with 36K miles and original everything.
The stable Sunday morning:
Then 2 hours later
And the alloy tank that will fit once the tank cups are off the frame and coils are moved - going to a single coil Boyer ignition most likely.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: May 8, 2007, 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: My Cafe Racer project thread |
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Monday May 8 2007
Took the frame and other greasy bits to the carwash to powerwash the snot off. Sat the tank on the bare frame and saw which bits had to be sacrificed in the name of all that's Alloy.
Doesn't quite fit...
So a wee bit of surgery...
The new lean and trim front end. Tank mounting cups removed by drilling out spot-welds and horn bracket ground off. Coil hanger can stay - nice fit and will hold the single boyer coil at some point.
akes for a perfect fit!
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jayel 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: May 8, 2007, 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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could you down-size your pics? 800x600 pixel, 59kbit jpeg going to look good all alloy
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: May 8, 2007, 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Sorry - pics are links to my photobucket site. I'll try to make them a little more user-friendly.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: June 3, 2007, 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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My latest acquisition for the bike. DID alloy 19" rim laced to an XS650 front drum brake With new brake shoes which run $40 from 650central.
cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotor...0117482398
Yes, I stayed up till 2:40AM to win the bloody thing. Not sure why a guy in Florida posts an auction at 3AM but I'm not arguing. That and listing it as an 'sx650' instead of xs650 likely won me the auction. I came close to getting it for $50 but one other bidder was watching it. I wanted it more than he did
It has been drilled for a typical brake stay, which means I can likely use it with just about any forks I want 35mm front end here I come!
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: June 3, 2007, 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Pics of the Radian swingarm bolted on using the XS650 pivot bolt.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: June 3, 2007, 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Here are the pics of the frame grinding.
With a plate stretched across the frame at the back end of where the seat will be along with the small plate near the end of the tank, I'll suspend an aluminum plate using bolts and spacers about the same depth as the frame rails to hold electronics etc. so there will be a solid aluminum plate under the seat facing the top of the tire acting as my 'fender'.
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ttmaniac Full Member
Joined: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 468
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Posted: June 3, 2007, 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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What kind of tank is that. That mother is sweet. $$$?
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: June 11, 2007, 12:52 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Hi - I scored the tank locally here in the Toronto area. Couldn't believe my luck. I got it for $350, but then had to buy the Monza cap ($80) and the tank strap and toggle kit ($100) so it's an expensive venture to be sure.
It's a one-off hand made alloy tank, made in the UK somewhere. Not the Tank Shop - they suggested it might have been made by someone else.
Tank Shop tanks run about 400 pounds, so about $800 plus shipping etc. so you're looking at a good $900+ once it gets here and taxes are paid.
It was a splurge - bought it before I even bought the bike!
If I ever sell the 650 it will go with a different tank - probably a GS450 which I'll pick up sometime soon. The tank will stay with me
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650Commuter Full Member
Joined: Jun 17, 2007 Posts: 12 Location: BC Canada
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Posted: June 24, 2007, 6:51 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Very nice tank! I had to keep to my $50 budget for a tank, so I went with an XS750. Yours was worth the price. It will look fantastic.
Keep up the pictures.
Glen.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: June 28, 2007, 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Well, the frame is with the welder, and I'm reconsidering my choice of Radian swingarm. The shock mounts don't line up - they need to be moved on the swingarm towards the centre to align with the mounts on the frame.
Whoever suggested the Radian swingarm was a 'bolt-on' with the exception of the 17 vs 20mm axle was wrong, unless there are variants on the Radian swingarm.
I'm likely going to start with my stock swingarm, and perhaps move to the Radian at some point in the future.
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650Commuter Full Member
Joined: Jun 17, 2007 Posts: 12 Location: BC Canada
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Posted: June 29, 2007, 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project/Radian swing arm |
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Thanks for the heads-up. I was just about to email a guy about buying his Radian swingarm. What year did yours come off? What parts other than the swingarm itself does one need to do this mod?
Thanks a bunch, Glen.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 1, 2007, 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Well, I don't know what year mine was from, but I'm pretty sure they're all the same.
ake sure you get the chain tensioners (the bits to hold the axle in place and adjust it's position), the axle (17mm vs the stock 20mm), make sure the needle bearings are in place with the dust caps, try to get the pivot bolt and the brake drum arm that holds the drum in place.
I got all those bits for mine, except one part of the chain tensioner (a rectangular plate that fits in the back of the swingarm). I was going to make my own out of polished alloy.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 11, 2007, 12:40 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Got the frame back - had the Radian arm fixed to work.
Lots of new bracing and the right bits for my tank strap. Just enough room for my arse too, and the Radian arm now fits properly (shock mounts). Nice welds, and they cleaned up a lot of mess so it's ready to be blasted and coated.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 11, 2007, 12:41 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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More pics.
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ttmaniac Full Member
Joined: Dec 22, 2006 Posts: 468
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Posted: July 11, 2007, 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Those are some beautiful welds...looks to be excellent reinforcement. I can't wait to see the finished bike.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 11, 2007, 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Me too! I just need to pull the bearings out of the swingarm, and drill a few holes/shape the front tank strap mounting tab and then it can go to the powdercoaters.
Also need some new bearings for the rear wheel to match the 17mm Radian axle, some spacers for it.
Once I have those bits, it can begin to go together into a rolling chassis.
The engine just needs the rocker cover dropped on and things torqued down. Then the ignition needs to go in (Boyer). Bit more cleaning is needed on the underside of the engine too. Then it can go into the frame.
Then it's front brakes, carbs, wiring, a seat, exhaust etc. and it'll be done.
I'm hoping to have it running by September. I'm losing a couple of weeks in July/Aug to vacation, but hope to have the powdercoating done while I'm gone.
Triple tree will be polished alloy up top and a matching powder or ceramic coat on the lower steel tree. Might have the 520 conversion sprockets ceramic coated too in black for fun. I have a 520 x-ring black/chrome chain coming for it.
I've already got the Tommaselli adjustable clipons, petcocks, new cables, grips, steering head bearings etc. sitting in a box ready to go on during assembly. Not much left to buy.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 13, 2007, 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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So today I snagged a set of VM36 Mikuni's and manifolds previously owned and tuned by Paul Whittaker, a sidecar racer. Should make things a bit more interesting once I get things together.
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cscarroll Full Member
Joined: Oct 08, 2006 Posts: 112
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Posted: July 13, 2007, 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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tintin,
I'd like to move my battery and electrics as well. Could really use some pics of your method when you get there.
Do you plan to stash the bits in the rear fender or elsewhere?
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 14, 2007, 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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I'm planning on making up an alloy tray that will sit below the seating area, in the same shape as the frame in that area (tapered towards the tank).
It will be a flat alloy plate with 1 inch or so sidewalls around. With bolts and 1 inch spacers it will hang from the metal plates I have welded in my seating area on top of the frame tubes. About 1/2 inch or so of the alloy tray will extend below the frame tubes.
In this area will be the electronic bits like the regulator/rectifier (will likely buy the combined unit from Mikesxs). I'm hoping to find one or two small sealed batteries to fit in this area, or will sort it out in the hump of the Manx style seat I'm either making or buying.
The wiring will run from the headlight under the top tube of the frame and then into this alloy tray. Shouldn't see any wiring exposed back of the headlight with the exception of the wiring from the stator.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 14, 2007, 12:33 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Lucky Friday the 13th for me
Waited around in the morning for a meeting I had to have (phone call) and FedEx to arrive with my Bikebandit box full of goodies Then I headed out to Guelph to pick up the Mikuni carbs from Gord
Took some pics of the goodies I've been keeping in a box as I've collected the bits and pieces.
Are these not the finest looking fuel filters you've laid eyes on? Chrome and glass - no plastic.
That's an EK 520MVXZ x-ring chrome chain to go on the 520 conversion sprockets. Emgo chrome crankcase breathers, etc. etc.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 14, 2007, 12:37 am Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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I'm looking into having the sprockets ceramic coated in black. Will look nice with the chrome chain and shiny new nuts and washers holding the sprocket onto the wheel. We'll see.
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Xumi Full Member
Joined: May 18, 2007 Posts: 395 Location: San Marcos, CA
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Posted: July 16, 2007, 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project |
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Holy huge pictures batman - it took 3 minutes to load this page.
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tintin Full Member
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Posted: July 20, 2007, 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Tintin's Cafe Racer project - BIG PICS WARNING! |
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When the heck does this forum create a new page of posts?
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