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JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads
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woodman Full Member


Joined: Oct 12, 2008 Posts: 256
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Posted: October 28, 2009, 11:24 am Post subject: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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www.amessupply.com/pro...id=1404070 I bought 2 long & 2 short #1 & #2 JIS japanese spec screw drivers a year ago, best money I ever spent. Stop ruining those case screws. Just thought Id pass this along, I have no dog in this hunt
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jayel 650Rider Supporter


Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 3417 Location: SE Iowa 1974 TX650A
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Posted: October 28, 2009, 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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replace those Phillips/JIS screws with allens
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sschering Full Member


Joined: Aug 10, 2008 Posts: 230 Location: Kennewick, WA
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Posted: October 28, 2009, 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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McMasterCarr sells a set of #1,#2,#3 and #4..
The only place I've found #3 and #4 drivers
Get a #3 driver. heck even a US style one.. there are more than a few #3 screws on our bikes to deal with.
$15 for the set of 4
www.mcmaster.com/#jis-...rs/=49c4sy
I have this Hozan set I'm very happy with
www.ikaswebshop.com/ho...set4d.html
I replace what fasteners I can but it's nice have drivers that can get the old screws out without much trouble..
The bonus of having them around is they fit almost any imported electronics way better then US drivers.. (think battery doors on kids toys)
Down side.. My wife keeps borrowing them.. I think I need a 2nd set.
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bluebikerblan Full Member


Joined: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Brigham City, Utah
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Posted: October 28, 2009, 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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For that next set of both JIS type screwdrivers and 1/4" drive bits try these......I particularly like the long bits for my variety of ratchet drive handles cause I don't mix them up with all my other phillips.
www.rjrcooltools.com/vessel.cfm
These are pretty nice tools and do fit the jis "phillips type" very well.
The following explains the jis fit issue better than most anything I've seen also.
www.rjrcooltools.com/
Blue
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Last edited by bluebikerblan on November 3, 2009, 11:33 am; edited 1 time in total |
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woodman Full Member


Joined: Oct 12, 2008 Posts: 256
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Posted: October 29, 2009, 9:43 am Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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Allens dont look correct but are better. You still have to get the old ones out though. Everyhting is fine if youre the first one to touch them and some meathead hasnt already ruined them which is rare with old bikes
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bluebikerblan Full Member


Joined: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Brigham City, Utah
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Posted: November 3, 2009, 11:49 am Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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Do check out the JIS 1/4" drive bits from RJRcooltool.com/ They are made for proper fit to the JIS Standard (Phillips type) screws we struggle to fit with Phillips bits & drivers made to the US Standard. Had one of the Vessel screwdrivers which are great and just got the bit set.
www.rjrcooltools.com/s...bcat_ID=89
Give em a go. They are the NUTS! The four piece set is $13.00....
You can tap em, set em drive em ratchet em and torque em and you'll be pleasantly surprised not only with fit, absence of camout, function and quality. Blue
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benztech Full Member


Joined: Sep 01, 2009 Posts: 62
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Posted: November 5, 2009, 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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just get a snap-on driver set.
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gordo 650Rider Supporter


Joined: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 559 Location: CT.U.S.A.
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Posted: November 5, 2009, 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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A trick I learned along time ago is to use the correct size bit,(#2 or #3). Tap the bit into the screw head, then give it a good, solid rap or two with a heavy hammer. That usually loosen's the grip on the thread's & out they come. Snap-On tool's are great, but very expensive. Plan on speanding $100 or more for the name set. Do not get Blue Point, as they are Chinese. The 'coating' on the tip's is junk. Snap-On's also got a bolster on them so a small wrench can be used on really stubborn fastner's.
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2-Skinny Full Member


Joined: Jun 16, 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: November 5, 2009, 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw he |
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One trick is to gently file/dremel the tip of the Philips heads flat so they won't "cam-out" of the screw. Not as good as JIS but free...
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woodman Full Member


Joined: Oct 12, 2008 Posts: 256
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Posted: November 7, 2009, 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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Assuming its someplece you can get to with a hack saw
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gordo 650Rider Supporter


Joined: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 559 Location: CT.U.S.A.
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Posted: November 7, 2009, 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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I do believe that Skinny is talking about the driver's, not the screw's themselves. I know that The General had come out with a Posidrive screw head that was used mostly in dashboard application's. A prerunner to Torx. The driver's had a different type of head, looked like a Phillip's, but a little extra slot that ran verticle with the point. But Skinny's idea does work. Gets' the head of the driver in a little deeper for a better bite.
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woodman Full Member


Joined: Oct 12, 2008 Posts: 256
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Posted: November 14, 2009, 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw he |
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Well, I was just trying to help, if you dont want them dont buy them. Ill just keep my thoughts to myself in the future
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gggGary Full Member


Joined: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 114
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Posted: November 15, 2009, 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw heads |
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Long as we're here hand (hammer) impact wrench, no motorcyclist should be without one. Relax woodman you are right but there are a few other good ideas presented also.
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650skull Support Staff

Joined: Jul 19, 2007 Posts: 1186
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Posted: November 16, 2009, 4:59 am Post subject: Re: JIS spec Phillips screw drivers, stop stripping screw he |
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I have used impact wrenches before until i bought a set of screwdrivers that have the shaft going through the handle and can be hit with a hammer also have a magnet on the end and can be used as a lever.
I use these as an impact driver using my hand as the tension. The thing that makes these so good is the length of the screwdrivers so it is easy to get into those places where an impact wrench is clumsy.
After having these i will never by an impact driver again
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