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blackwidow Full Member
Joined: Apr 11, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: Colorado
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Posted: July 27, 2009, 5:45 am Post subject: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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How hard it will be to change I know it's just a matter of changing the neck just not sure exactly how springers work as far as the tripple tree part is I don't know if there is adjustment like there is on regular tripple trees and Should I stay with 7/8 bars or move up to 1"?? I'm gonna run a 2" under stock.
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xsleo Full Member
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Posted: July 28, 2009, 1:50 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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From what I have read, if you have the tapered roller bearing in the neck of you 650 frame, just using the 1" bearings the springer uses, it bolts right in. The springer stem is a bit shorter. thinning the top nut should get the upper tree down on right.
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blackwidow Full Member
Joined: Apr 11, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: Colorado
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 3:41 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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So is 2" under the right size to make it sit stock height?? Has anybody had any experience on the ebay ones or the demonscycle ones there like 385 shipped either chrome or powder coated black and chrome I hate to buy a cheap one that is gonna bend....
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blackwidow Full Member
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 4:26 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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where do I get a 1" bearing like that? Maybe a harley shop but do I tell them I want a 1" neck bearing or what the heck do I ask for?
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MN_TX650 Full Member
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 9:50 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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you will need the tapered neck bearing set that mikesxs sells, and 1" tapere trailer bearings from what I have read. Basically use only the bearing races from mikes set.
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LDO107 Full Member
Joined: Jul 15, 2009 Posts: 63 Location: Pensacola Florida
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't kn |
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Black Widow, I'm in the process of researching this mod as well. From everything I've read, 2 under will get our bikes just about level which is what I'm after, especially after hard-tailing the rear.
As for how to get 1 inch neck bearings, you can get them off ebay as well. They're just regular 1 inch timken bearings, I think I've got an old box with the PN still on it (i'll check tonight).
If you don't want to just use trailer wheel bearings as suggested earlier, you could go to the HD place and tell them you need neck bearings for an 05 Sportster (or pretty much any style HD) as my 05 sporty had a one inch neck.
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gordonscott Full Member
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't kn |
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you guys seem to be right on track and the 2" under will look great
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blackwidow Full Member
Joined: Apr 11, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: Colorado
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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I thought I read where a 2" under will make the bike sit low so is a stock one normal height?? I seen how to measure the forks but it doesn't seem right maybe I misread it can someone elaborate.
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Audy Full Member
Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Posts: 27 Location: Wabamun alberta
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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For your bearings you'll save a lot of money if you take your old ball type out measure the ID of your neck and go to your local bearing supplier with that number and ask for a 1inch ID and whatever your OD is be like 10.00 bucks that what I did with my old cb 750 chop. No troubles
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LDO107 Full Member
Joined: Jul 15, 2009 Posts: 63 Location: Pensacola Florida
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't kn |
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blackwidow wrote: |
I thought I read where a 2" under will make the bike sit low so is a stock one normal height?? I seen how to measure the forks but it doesn't seem right maybe I misread it can someone elaborate. |
BWidow,
check this thread out:
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XSLeo explains it well. bottom line: 2 under will get you really close to the where our bikes are right now.
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blackwidow Full Member
Joined: Apr 11, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: Colorado
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't kn |
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LDO107 wrote: |
blackwidow wrote: |
I thought I read where a 2" under will make the bike sit low so is a stock one normal height?? I seen how to measure the forks but it doesn't seem right maybe I misread it can someone elaborate. |
BWidow,
check this thread out:
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XSLeo explains it well. bottom line: 2 under will get you really close to the where our bikes are right now. |
Yup Yup that stance is nice
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gordo 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 559 Location: CT.U.S.A.
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Posted: July 29, 2009, 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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Widder, Welcome back!!! Glad to see your gettin' grease under the fingernail's again. I want to wish you the best of luck on this one, and if it's only half as nice as the last one, itl'l be great. I knew you'd be back, just not so soon.,,,Gordo,,,PS, let's not let the smoke out of this one!!!LOL
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blackwidow Full Member
Joined: Apr 11, 2009 Posts: 394 Location: Colorado
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Posted: July 30, 2009, 12:14 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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I'm not going no where Gordo my house remodeling will start winding down and it's full throttle on the bike then I'm gonna build my other bike I'll keep everyone updated when I do actually dive right in.
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xsleo Full Member
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Posted: July 30, 2009, 1:31 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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I have been reading about the springer front ends. I have always like the look of a springer. I have heard that the DNA is a good one, and the price is good.
I think I might get one for my next build.
Checking with some of the bobber/chopper sites will probably have much more info on the how to.
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blackwidow Full Member
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Posted: July 30, 2009, 4:12 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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Check out Ebay Item number#360174898063 I know it's not the right size but is that a good one??
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MN_TX650 Full Member
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Posted: July 30, 2009, 8:30 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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Would it look ghey to run a springer with out a hardtail?
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blackwidow Full Member
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Posted: July 30, 2009, 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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My bike is hardtailed just look at the pic under my name
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MN_TX650 Full Member
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Posted: July 30, 2009, 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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but I have one that isn't
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blackwidow Full Member
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Posted: July 30, 2009, 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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Oh so your gonna springer it with no hardtail??
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MN_TX650 Full Member
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Posted: July 31, 2009, 8:42 am Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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that was the thought. Figured since we were talking about springers, I would see if anyone had seen an XS done that way. I am still debating whether to restore or bob my 78.
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blackwidow Full Member
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Posted: July 31, 2009, 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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You should bob it
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MN_TX650 Full Member
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Posted: July 31, 2009, 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't kn |
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i am starting to lean that way more and more. Seen some nice photos of bikes guys made a drop seat section for, and retained the rear shocks. looks sick as f***. Thinking it would look good with a springer too
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Joseph Full Member
Joined: May 22, 2007 Posts: 767 Location: NY
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Posted: July 31, 2009, 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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If done right , like you are saying I think a springer would be fine on a soft tail. Harly makes a soft tail springer , right?
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yamaman Support Staff
Joined: Jan 04, 2007 Posts: 1638 Location: Perth Western Australia
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Posted: July 31, 2009, 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: thinking about a springer with a stock rake but don't know |
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Yeah, but it's made to look like a hardarse:
motorcycles.about.com/...STSSE3.htm
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