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nehtar New Member
Joined: Jun 22, 2006 Posts: 2 Location: colorado springs co
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Posted: August 13, 2006, 11:54 am Post subject: oil cooler |
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Can anyone tell me where to get an oil cooler I can't find any at any of the parts places thanks
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royfisk Full Member
Joined: May 24, 2006 Posts: 1597 Location: winchester, new hampshire usa
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Posted: September 19, 2006, 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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I would think a lockhart cooler for a triumph or sportster even would work, you could remove your top-end oil line feeder, install a ferrule into the engine block to feed the cooler. Then you would have to put a fitting into the upper section of the feeder tee to bring the oil from the cooler to the top end. This would cool the oil going into the top-end. being that the 650 does not use a oil tank I am not sure of a real solid idea to cool it going into the sump.
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dpmphoto Full Member
Joined: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 485 Location: syracuse NY
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Posted: May 2, 2008, 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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The 650 does not need an oiler cooler, unless your bored and have extra money to waste spend it somewhere else.With the overhead cam and the bearings and such you really gain nothing by having one
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: May 2, 2008, 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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I beg to differ but sure don't want to argue about it.........they do cool the engine down some in the hot summer and help protect the viscosity.....and you don't have to pay much for them if you are careful....and some ways to install them are better than others........
xsjohn
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KYLEPRESTON 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Jul 24, 2006 Posts: 561 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: May 2, 2008, 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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I would have to agree with John I put a lockhart I got used for $10 including the new oil line and fasteners. I never looked back.
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xs1961 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Apr 23, 2007 Posts: 1808 Location: uk
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Posted: May 3, 2008, 2:36 am Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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Cooler works well on mine here even in the chilly UK..Increases oil capacity by a pint too..
That said you dont actually NEED one...The japs dont usually tend to leave off something a bike needs
The bike scrapyards over here are chock-full of £10 coolers...
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jimmythetrucker Full Member
Joined: Mar 12, 2008 Posts: 1283
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Posted: May 3, 2008, 7:15 am Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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royfisk wrote: |
I would think a lockhart cooler for a triumph or sportster even would work, you could remove your top-end oil line feeder, install a ferrule into the engine block to feed the cooler. Then you would have to put a fitting into the upper section of the feeder tee to bring the oil from the cooler to the top end. This would cool the oil going into the top-end. being that the 650 does not use a oil tank I am not sure of a real solid idea to cool it going into the sump. |
Roy -- I'm not arguing but just asking: Wouldn't that setup starve the top end after start-up, during the time it takes to pump the cooler full of oil BEFORE the top end gets any?
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Joseph Full Member
Joined: May 22, 2007 Posts: 767 Location: NY
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Posted: May 3, 2008, 8:18 am Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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xsjohn I kow you have the temps down to a science, saved me a bunch of time, in NY I get both ends of the weather and there were some days last summer I think knoking a few deg off wouldn't hurt. How much did you cool it down with your topend cooler? That is going to be my next mod.
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KYLEPRESTON 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Jul 24, 2006 Posts: 561 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: May 3, 2008, 11:19 am Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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I have my cooler so it holds oil once the pressure builds it pumps from the cooler to the engine actually shorter than pumping from the sump.
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Joseph Full Member
Joined: May 22, 2007 Posts: 767 Location: NY
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dpmphoto Full Member
Joined: Apr 18, 2007 Posts: 485 Location: syracuse NY
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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I dont want to argue either,I'm just saying the bike doesnt need one due to the engine design.
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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Would think especially an air cooled engine even though it is ball bearing can use some means for the heat to excape in the hot summer.........unless it is just fun hearing all the clattering..........xsjohn
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Cooltouch Full Member
Joined: Jan 07, 2007 Posts: 568 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 9:03 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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It might not need one in Syracuse, NY. Try the May till November summertime in Texas. And then getting stuck in afternoon bumper-to-bumper traffic on the I-10 that's been under construction for the past eight years. More than once, I've had to pull off the freeway to let my bike cool off before continuing. Would an oil cooler without some sort of fan help in my situation? Dunno, but it couldn't hurt.
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: May 5, 2008, 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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Probably not much in that situation.........water cooled barrels would be the hot ticket.....the barrels get hotter than the head and there is some important clearances in there..........xsjohn
Gets as hot as fresh dog doo here in NC too......that would be 98 degrees I suppose and more if the sun is shining on it.........
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Retiredgentleman 650Rider Supporter
Joined: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 2258 Location: Calgary, Alberta 1978 XS650 SE
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Posted: May 6, 2008, 12:13 am Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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Yeah, for sure it depends where you live................now here in Canada perhaps an inline heating element for the oil would be more useful for those cold morning starts
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xsjohn Full Member
Joined: Jul 30, 2006 Posts: 5857 Location: North Carolina USSA
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Posted: May 6, 2008, 1:43 am Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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Could drape your heating pad over it .....no not the whoopee cushion.....
xsjohn
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Jeffery Full Member
Joined: Feb 12, 2006 Posts: 115 Location: Goodyear Arizona
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Posted: May 15, 2008, 2:12 am Post subject: Re: oil cooler |
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Yea, it may not be necessary in some parts of the country but when you live in a climate where you can step outside at midnight and its still 100 degrees during certain months a year it sure can't hurt to have a cooler. I still believe, after constantly watching ebay regularly for years now that the heat is the reason you rarily find a used XS 650 in this state. I have heard some say it didn't matter because they drove through Phoenix one time when it was 120 degees and they experienced no problems. However, try riding your air cooled motorcycle day in day out in that type of climate I believe does take its toll on the engine.
Todd
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